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Three Ps (Pot, Pomegranate and Pepper)
Three Ps (Pot, Pomegranate and Pepper)

Are there three Ps or four???

 

This still life was set up in David Gallup's class.  Although I really don't think I reached the goal he was setting, I did try very hard to develop a variety of edges.   I have painted this copper pot a few times now and really love the way the light and reflections create so many varied colors in the surface. 

 

My version of the still life was called "Three Ps (Pot, Pomegranate and Pepper)"

 

David's Demo

David tells us that the least sophisticated way to lose edges is when you blurr or fuzz out the edge.   He suggested scumbling, using tangled color,

pulling or pushing sections, using thick or thin paint, playing down the contrasts or edge transitions using temperature only.  He also says the least sophisticated brush stroke has four edges.

 

There is so much darn stuff to learn...  Trying to deal with edges of shapes and values rather than edges of objects is going to take lots and lots of painting and practice.    Truly, I'm pretty much just happy when the painting is pretty.   (But I AM trying to learn all I can anyway.)

Today David's class was even MORE frustrating!   We had a nude model and were given 6 minutes to paint her.   No worrying about drawing, edges or anything... just beautiful color within three values and a minimum of strokes.   He says the short time forces us to just think of light and form and not worry about all the details.    We did a series of 6 minute paintings... most of which I wiped off.  Then we did 12 minutes, 15 minutes and the last was 35 minutes... heavenly...(not really BETTER... but psychologically heavenly)    I'll show a few of those sketches in a future post...  It's dark and they are too wet to fool with right now.  (Also... they're VERY sketchy oil sketches!!!)

 


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7 Responses to Edges

Marian, I love your comments on the various workshops you have taken. I wish I could reciprocate some how.

All of the work you put in is paying off big time. I've notice dramitic changes in your work, Really like yor paintings.

Ernie

Hi Marion,

Yeah, don't make this too complicated. If you just remember that texture is best shown at the edge of a shape (or a something), and that we can only paint three of them (though physically there are a lot more).

As painters, we are limited to only three, paintable textures: Hard (or smooth), Rough, and Soft. That's all that the painting tool (brush, pencil, pen, etc.), can show on either paper or canvas. For example, in my medium (watercolor), we show each via the paper using it either dry (producing a hard or rough edge), or wet (producing a soft edge). You have to work a little harder in oils to get your edges, but the idea is the same.

Texture is "thing" based, so ask, "...what is the nature of the object that I'm painting?" In some cases you might get two answers, the texture at the edge and the texture inside the object. For example, leaves on a tree are a rough texture at the outside edge of the mass, but a soft texture on the inside of the mass (you can't pick out a single leaf among thousands).

A "Lost" or "Found" edge is more a matter of value, although a soft edge is technically easier to "lose" than a hard or rough edge. I've always thought that the term "pass-through" was a better one than lost. Since we "lose" an edge when the relative values are similar in adjacent shapes, it's easier to think about lost or found by asking the question, "Can I pass through from one shape to another, or is there a barrier, a change in value between them?" I can alter color from one hue, or temperature, to another all I want, but it's the value that counts.

Losing or finding an edge is simple. If you want to lose an edge, then paint through from one shape to another without a break (don't stop the paint at some imaginary line), and keep the relative value the same across the span (change colors all you want). Brushwork won't matter. You can trowel it on for all I care and it won't make a difference. Put down globs of paint and see for yourself. As long as the paint application goes from one shape to another and stays the same value no matter what color, then you'll lose the edge between the shapes.

If you want to find and edge, then make a good value change at that edge and then tell us about the texture at that change. Give us hard or rough. Simple.

There are a number of ways to emphasize a found edge depending on which "ism" of painting that you are working in, however, value is the key here. Avoid the gimmicks and tricks, and stick with the basics.

Tootles ;)

Hi Ernie... Thanks.. I hope so. David's class is not really a workshop. I've been studying with him for almost a year and a half... with some time off. I can only manage to go once a week but some of his students go almost every day.
When are we going to paint together again???? Laura said something about rabbit bush in her neighborhood.

Hi Russell,
EGAD... You are just a FOUNTAIN of information!!! I'll bet you have many devotees in your classes. As always, thanks for the wonderful lessons you provide to me and to all who may read these posts!!!

Hope your Thanksgiving was wonderful!

Thanks Marion, and we had a nice Thanksgiving once we got past the great turkey disaster of 2012 (bad turkey upon defrosting; replaced bird).

I wish that I could say that I have "devotees," but the truth is that here in Utah no one wants to listen or learn. Unless the lesson is on how you take a photo, trace from it, and then play coloring book with it to produce a copy of a photo in paint, what I know about art and design doesn't seem to be needed, or wanted around this place.

Yeah, that seems bizarre, but this is Utah and like Dorothy once said, "...we're not in Kansas anymore Toto." It's one reason that I'm trying to schedule workshops in other areas. It's frustrating.

What's really insane is that people here ask why their work isn't getting any better, but they never want to do anything or learn anything that would make the work better, but then they arrive back at the question once more, "...why isn't my work getting any better?" It's just an endless cycle.

To make matters even worse you have "instructors" who actually make painting more difficult than it really is by pushing all of these gimmicky methods that never really work. When that fails the excuse then becomes, "...well, you need talent to be an artist." To be honest, I've never heard so much ca-ca in my life.

Art is craft, a blue collar activity, done with the hands, and which requires certain basic skills that can be learned by any reasonably intelligent person. No special "gifts" or "talents" are required. Drawing and painting are skill sets that, if taught simply and properly, can be mastered in six months. This is what 40 years of experience has shown me and it's the honest truth.

Remember, painting is simple, despite what everyone else says.

Hi Marian! I was just looking through my old comments on my blog and found yours! I don't know what happens but I lose track of blogs I follow. Thanks so much for sharing what you're learning. I've done life drawing classes like that but never with paints. That would be fun but crazy going that fast! I'm taking an online workshop with Richard Robinson right now and am learning a lot from him. It's nice that artists share with everyone!
Jennifer

Yep... I've done those quick poses with charcoal sketches before and even those are pretty frenetic... but with paint... mixing color... EGAD.. Crazy!!
But David feels that the practice is good for us because as you know, when you're out painting en plein air everything is always changing rapidly anyway and we should be able to get the impressions down quickly..... SHOULD being the operative word here....

Thanks for dropping by... Happy painting!


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